Diplomatic Debacles: Trump, Zelensky, and the Press Conference Fallout
Show Notes
Did you catch one of the most explosive moments in recent diplomatic history, featuring the heated exchange between former President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. This while the media was fully present? Why did it happen? Who is to blame? Why are Trump and Vance the only ones getting heat for the episode? How can a politician's demeanor and attire impact the perception of their intentions? What is truly at stake here and why are we not addressing the real issues?
00:00:03.769 --> 00:00:17.088 Just amazing eh, ladies, and gentlemen, how you know, we expect diplomacy, we expect perfection, we expect so many things from our leaders, but when it doesn't happen, it's interesting the reaction.
00:00:17.088 --> 00:00:31.766 So, in case you missed the live action and it happens so rarely that we can see a live action shot of a president arguing with another president and his VP, of course just getting in the way but was that really what happened?
00:00:31.766 --> 00:00:36.930 Did it really happen in such a way that Donald Trump lashed out at Vladimir Zelensky?
00:00:36.930 --> 00:00:38.133 And it was wrong?
00:00:38.133 --> 00:00:49.473 Because if you listen to all the other media and other politicians, including UK Prime Minister Sturmer, who was just in Washington last week, donald Trump was in the wrong or was he?
00:00:50.215 --> 00:00:51.642 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Rant Network.
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00:01:32.605 --> 00:01:40.096 Stuart, as I watched parts of the live, I caught it like in a distance.
00:01:40.096 --> 00:01:43.629 I didn't really realize what was going on because I came in late and I was going.
00:01:43.629 --> 00:01:45.052 My God, what happened?
00:01:45.052 --> 00:01:52.254 How is it that Trump, zelensky and Vance are arguing in front of all these cameras, in front of all the media?
00:01:52.254 --> 00:02:03.754 And I just sat there in bewilderment until I went back to the beginning and realized you know, zelensky, he did a great job.
00:02:03.754 --> 00:02:06.409 He did a great job.
00:02:06.409 --> 00:02:09.781 Stuartart, what do you think about what happened last week in the oval?
00:02:10.442 --> 00:02:41.325 well, let me, uh, put it like this you don't go to the president of the united and make demands, whether you're Joe Biden, who forgot about it already, obama, who never really cared, or any of the Bushes or Clintons or Ling anyone you just don't go into the President's United States office and make demands.
00:02:41.325 --> 00:02:46.514 It is just simply the dumbest thing you could possibly do.
00:02:46.514 --> 00:03:04.143 Now, when you're talking about anyone saying there needs to be peace and needs to understand what is actually at stake and what is the probability, the rate of success of this war, there's no doubt.
00:03:04.143 --> 00:03:07.931 The Ukrainians fight valiantly, no question about it.
00:03:07.931 --> 00:03:09.502 So did the Taliban.
00:03:09.502 --> 00:03:12.567 They got Russia right.
00:03:12.567 --> 00:03:22.106 Their sheer desire to win got Russia in the 80s out of Afghanistan Bunch of towel heads, I believe they were called.
00:03:23.288 --> 00:03:30.705 But this war is complicated and I don't think the world yet has a freaking clue what it's about.
00:03:30.705 --> 00:03:38.584 And, david, you and I touched upon this way back in the beginning, before the war even happened.
00:03:38.584 --> 00:03:50.086 But I want to throw a map on care of my Reuters terminal and I want you to take a look at these overlay colors of what they are Now.
00:03:50.086 --> 00:03:54.659 David, can you read what this thing says right over here, titanium?
00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:58.550 Can you read what this one says Rare earth.
00:03:58.550 --> 00:04:02.445 Could you read what this one says Lithium uranium.
00:04:02.466 --> 00:04:07.915 This one says lithium, uranium, manganese, iron OK, ok.
00:04:07.915 --> 00:04:23.720 So now, now that we have a clear understanding that the war isn't about Ukraine, it's about raw minerals and resources.
00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:31.964 And the next thing I want to share with you guys, because I think I need to bring this into focus, let's understand what's at stake.
00:04:31.964 --> 00:04:35.769 The Ukrainian manpower is 18 million.
00:04:35.769 --> 00:04:37.610 Russia 69 million.
00:04:37.610 --> 00:04:42.235 Active soldiers 1.3, 900,000.
00:04:42.235 --> 00:04:46.762 Reserve forces 2 million 1,000.
00:04:47.605 --> 00:04:50.612 Now, did any of you guys ever play a game called Risk when we were younger?
00:04:50.612 --> 00:04:53.305 David, do you remember Risk?
00:04:53.305 --> 00:04:54.610 Absolutely.
00:04:54.610 --> 00:04:56.487 Do you remember Stratego?
00:04:56.487 --> 00:04:58.307 Do you remember playing chess checkers?
00:04:58.307 --> 00:05:03.958 Sometimes the person with the most amount of chips on the table is going to eviscerate.
00:05:03.958 --> 00:05:09.168 The next, or the one that has the constant flow of chips on the table is going to eviscerate the next, or the one that has the constant flow of chips, depending on the game you're playing.
00:05:10.692 --> 00:05:25.012 There is no doubt that the ukrainians, again, have fought valiantly, but at this point and at this stage, the likelihood of success based off numbers is slim to none.
00:05:25.012 --> 00:05:40.689 I don't know if anyone can argue that, and if you think you can argue that, you must be a Democrat because you want more Ukrainians dead than Russians do, because Russia just wants the raw minerals man.
00:05:40.689 --> 00:05:43.088 They have no interest in anything else.
00:05:43.088 --> 00:05:46.245 Kiev is a trophy for Putin.
00:05:46.245 --> 00:05:50.665 Odessa is where he has very fond memories.
00:05:50.665 --> 00:06:09.415 But to go on the world stage and try and make dictation to the president, vice president, in the most public forum in the world, to try and jump the president and the American people isn't very wise.
00:06:09.415 --> 00:06:17.024 In fact, maybe the fact that you think you could win a war that on paper seems unwinnable.
00:06:19.288 --> 00:06:32.206 I think the facts are now very evident that these other countries in Europe are now going to be forced to give the support that they should have given in the beginning, that they didn't give on the onset.
00:06:32.206 --> 00:06:36.697 The United States has been there, giving billions and billions of dollars.
00:06:36.697 --> 00:06:50.678 Sorry, canada, mexico, germany, england, france, they gave money, but a little pittance to what the US government has contributed to this war.
00:06:50.678 --> 00:07:01.757 And maybe it's the fact that the United States is an ocean apart and isn't first in line to feel any wrath of a superpower.
00:07:01.757 --> 00:07:02.598 You idiots.
00:07:02.598 --> 00:07:04.822 What's a superpower?
00:07:04.822 --> 00:07:06.591 They got nuclear.
00:07:06.591 --> 00:07:13.555 They can blow you into a blitherines, whether you're in Canada, united States or America.
00:07:13.555 --> 00:07:18.110 There needs to be peace, no question about it.
00:07:18.110 --> 00:07:21.694 And Ukraine doesn't have all the cards in its hand.
00:07:24.925 --> 00:07:27.954 And finally, david, because I know I've been ranting for almost half the time.
00:07:27.954 --> 00:07:52.355 Though I have sympathy and empathy for all the Ukrainian people, my wife, who's Ukrainian, who watched this entire 40-minute dilute minute dilute thinks that this Vladimir needs to go back home and needs to go under a rock because he hasn't been the best for the Ukrainian people.
00:07:52.355 --> 00:07:57.588 He hasn't been a leader, he's been a thief in arms.
00:07:57.588 --> 00:08:03.257 His wife's buying Bugattis and people can't even support themselves.
00:08:03.257 --> 00:08:04.879 True story, david.
00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.749 A $4 million.
00:08:07.749 --> 00:08:10.497 Now he is an accomplished actor.
00:08:12.322 --> 00:08:29.266 I don't know about you, david, but an accomplished actor in a war-torn country, representing as president of a country whose wife goes and buys a $4 million car when the people can barely support themselves.
00:08:29.266 --> 00:08:31.512 Their men, women and children are going to the front lines.
00:08:31.512 --> 00:08:32.533 His wife's buying a car.
00:08:32.533 --> 00:08:35.399 Optics are everything.
00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.845 Optics, david.
00:08:37.845 --> 00:08:43.296 When you go to synagogue, do you put on a shirt and tie or a shirt slacks?
00:08:43.296 --> 00:08:44.639 Your best of best?
00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.230 Yes, you probably do.
00:08:46.230 --> 00:08:51.317 If you're going to church, whoever is out there, do you put on your best to go?
00:08:51.317 --> 00:09:04.979 When you're going to sit with the President of the United States, you're supposed to put on your best, and if your best are fatigues, maybe you're pretending again like an actor.
00:09:09.191 --> 00:09:12.649 Who are you trying to portray now?
00:09:16.418 --> 00:09:16.577 Wow.
00:09:16.577 --> 00:09:18.993 Well, a few things with that, stuart.
00:09:18.993 --> 00:09:26.616 One, let's be real, vladimir Zelensky plays his part perfectly.
00:09:26.616 --> 00:09:30.309 Yes, russia attacked Ukraine.
00:09:30.309 --> 00:09:33.836 Yes, the minerals are a fantastic.
00:09:33.836 --> 00:09:38.129 You know that is part of the goal of Russia.
00:09:38.129 --> 00:09:44.799 Russia wants to go back to its old Soviet ways with its satellite states and its power, cold and whatever.
00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:51.173 And yes, it is all about Putin's dream of being the czar.
00:09:51.173 --> 00:09:52.095 We know all this.
00:09:52.095 --> 00:09:53.037 This is nothing new.
00:09:53.037 --> 00:09:53.778 We've heard about it.
00:09:53.778 --> 00:09:57.192 Excuse me, it's been going on since Putin took over power.
00:09:58.647 --> 00:10:03.394 But here's the thing, stuart, and I hope, while you're clicking away, they're looking for more facts and figures.
00:10:03.394 --> 00:10:06.794 Here's the thing that people don't realize about Vladimir Zelensky.
00:10:06.794 --> 00:10:11.115 Zelensky went and played the cards perfectly.
00:10:11.115 --> 00:10:14.274 Let me remind everybody, ukraine is not part of NATO.
00:10:14.274 --> 00:10:19.873 Ukraine came to Europe and the United States asking for help.
00:10:19.873 --> 00:10:34.356 A president who was already the mafia don, who was already tied into barista, who was already tied into Ukraine, who's already had something there, and Zelensky milked Biden for all it's worth.
00:10:34.356 --> 00:10:40.253 But people also forget that in 2022, biden blew up at Zelensky.
00:10:40.253 --> 00:10:44.376 Oh, but that doesn't matter because it's a Democrat.
00:10:44.376 --> 00:10:58.014 People forget, stuart, that Zelensky, while on tour asking for arms and money, shredded Israel, who was caught between a rock and a hard place.
00:10:58.014 --> 00:11:07.539 In a war shredded Israel because Ukraine suddenly lost its center point of focus in the world.
00:11:07.539 --> 00:11:11.291 What so the question becomes?
00:11:11.291 --> 00:11:14.076 You know, here is Biden who says here's more arms.
00:11:14.076 --> 00:11:17.091 Europe says here's more arms and go out and fight.
00:11:17.091 --> 00:11:18.695 And that's what Zelensky wants.
00:11:18.695 --> 00:11:22.211 He wants to fight, but he doesn't want to negotiate.
00:11:22.211 --> 00:11:25.070 Stuart, and I think that this is something that Trump has said to him.
00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:34.649 He said, you know it's interesting because Trump has said the same thing to Netanyahu we need to negotiate, we need to settle, we need to finish, we need to come to some resolution.
00:11:34.649 --> 00:11:42.214 And while the media wants to paint Donald Trump as, of course, a Putin puppet, you know, because you know, all dictators get together.
00:11:42.214 --> 00:11:43.275 You know the.
00:11:43.275 --> 00:11:44.596 They have the protocols.
00:11:44.596 --> 00:11:52.653 You know all the, all the dictators they get together, they have their little secret conversation and they go out and they do what they want because, you know, that's all they call Trump.
00:11:53.135 --> 00:11:58.734 But when you listen carefully, zelensky was a guest at the White House.
00:11:58.734 --> 00:12:21.451 Zelensky could have been was asked a question and although many, many, many, many leaders have come to the White House, I mean, let me remind everybody of the way Kamala Harris treated Benjamin Netanyahu just a scant year ago, less than a year ago, when, if you recall, he was in Washington and she said she couldn't be bothered, she went to some sorority event.
00:12:21.451 --> 00:12:24.432 No flack on that.
00:12:24.432 --> 00:12:28.148 That was not bad diplomacy, no, no, that was.
00:12:28.148 --> 00:12:29.393 Guess what they said?
00:12:29.393 --> 00:12:32.894 That was Kamala Harris teaching Netanyahu a lesson.
00:12:32.894 --> 00:12:41.934 Donald Trump and JD Vance taught Zelensky a lesson Now John Fetterman, by the way, dresses up in sweatshirts.
00:12:42.365 --> 00:12:49.234 So the fact that Zelensky showed up at the Oval Office the way he did, hey, it's on him that my friend is his.
00:12:49.234 --> 00:12:51.205 You know his dress code.
00:12:51.205 --> 00:12:55.417 By the way, yasser Arafat also showed up at the White House wearing a keffiyeh.
00:12:55.417 --> 00:12:57.666 He went to the United Nations brandishing a gun.
00:12:57.666 --> 00:13:02.308 So we are not in a world today where people really simply care.
00:13:02.308 --> 00:13:05.750 It's their look that matters and Zelensky's throat.
00:13:05.750 --> 00:13:06.730 You know what dude?
00:13:06.730 --> 00:13:08.751 You got hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:13:08.751 --> 00:13:34.745 And at what point do you say these are my friends and we will talk.
00:13:34.745 --> 00:13:35.386 And you keep your mouth shut.
00:13:35.386 --> 00:13:35.988 And in private you talk.
00:13:35.988 --> 00:13:37.471 You know the old expression don't air your dirty laundry in public.
00:13:37.490 --> 00:13:38.452 Zelensky opened it up.
00:13:38.452 --> 00:13:41.038 Should Trump and Vance continue?
00:13:41.038 --> 00:13:46.515 Maybe, but Zelensky realized well into this press conference.
00:13:46.515 --> 00:13:48.581 He blew his game.
00:13:48.581 --> 00:13:51.328 He played a card he shouldn't have played.
00:13:51.328 --> 00:13:53.234 He lost a game.
00:13:53.234 --> 00:14:07.738 So he runs to the UK, pretends nothing happens and, as of, by the way, as of this morning now, zelensky saying I'm ready to sign a trade deal, but I need those reassurances, those security reassurances.
00:14:07.738 --> 00:14:10.610 He ran to Europe, who can't protect him.
00:14:10.610 --> 00:14:20.232 He ran to Sturmer and Macron, who can't protect him, and Prime Minister Trudeau is there who can't protect him.
00:14:20.232 --> 00:14:25.070 And all these people can't protect Zelensky without the United States.
00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:32.110 So, hat in hand, you got to come back, mr Zelensky, and try again, because you blew it.
00:14:33.032 --> 00:14:49.980 You know, david, but before we just go and wrap, I actually have the structure of the us ukraine draft mineral deal and in that mineral deal has for security guarantees.
00:14:49.980 --> 00:14:55.914 The us government will support ukraine's efforts to obtain security guarantees needed to establish lasting peace.
00:14:55.914 --> 00:15:03.586 There's no mention of concrete us security guarantees, which Kiev was hopeful to obtain.
00:15:03.586 --> 00:15:10.537 But hang on a second the US government supports its own interests.
00:15:10.537 --> 00:15:17.745 If its interests are the raw minerals, the US government in a New York minute would support itself.
00:15:17.745 --> 00:15:17.940 It doesn't need to put it in writing.
00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:19.134 Government in a New York minute would support itself.
00:15:19.134 --> 00:15:19.965 It doesn't need to put it in writing.
00:15:19.965 --> 00:15:30.486 It will support and not putting it in writing doesn't really bring an issue to Vladimir Putin.
00:15:30.788 --> 00:15:32.875 He doesn't know how to nuclear weapons.
00:15:32.875 --> 00:15:34.769 It doesn't make a difference.
00:15:34.769 --> 00:15:52.294 And listen, let's wrap it up like this If CNN, msnbc, abc, bbc, all the rest of these stations would get off their Trump derangement syndrome and report the news properly, it would be amazing how you would be spewing Zelensky.
00:15:52.294 --> 00:16:06.076 But you know what, in the game that is being played right now by the media, zelensky's a darling again and Trump is not Last word, my friend, my last word is.
00:16:06.076 --> 00:16:06.820 I guess that's it.
00:16:07.264 --> 00:16:09.428 My last word, David, is very simple.
00:16:10.893 --> 00:16:12.315 Insanity Yep.
00:16:12.315 --> 00:16:13.037 All right folks.
00:16:13.037 --> 00:16:13.817 Thanks for tuning in.
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