What if the emotional pull to bring loved ones home could reshape a nation's future? This episode challenges you to consider the complexities of the proposed armistice, release of the hostages and return of convicted prisoners between Israel and Hamas. We navigate the deeply personal stakes at play, such as the heart-wrenching story of the Bibas family, while pondering the broader implications of this deal. With the potential to both secure hostages' release and embolden future threats, this agreement sits at the intersection of hope and fear. As tensions ripple across the Middle East, conversations spotlight Israel's strategic challenges with neighbors and terrorist groups, while examining international perceptions and the cycle of blame that complicates the quest for lasting peace.
00:00:04.549 --> 00:00:06.052 The whole story decided to go a little bit.
00:00:06.052 --> 00:00:13.525 You know, simple, in my mind this morning, the most popular songs they ever put out that their fans actually hated the whole story behind that.
00:00:13.525 --> 00:00:28.271 And so, speaking of hating, there are people around the world today still hating on Israel and still blaming Israel for what happened since October the 7th, because, you know, israel brought this war upon themselves and Hamas is everything, everything, everything.
00:00:28.271 --> 00:00:34.265 And instead of the world today going, finally, thank God there is a deal It'll go through.
00:00:34.265 --> 00:00:37.787 You hear the crickets, stuart, from the.
00:00:37.787 --> 00:00:39.171 We want to ceasefire people.
00:00:39.171 --> 00:00:42.270 Not one word, that's it.
00:00:42.270 --> 00:00:50.729 That was a cricket about this deal that hopefully we'll be going through on Sunday, but Stuart isn't convinced this is good for Israel.
00:00:50.750 --> 00:00:51.932 Welcome back to the Rant Network.
00:00:51.932 --> 00:00:54.104 I'm David Solomon, he is Stuart Brzegel.
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00:01:24.911 --> 00:01:35.000 So, stuart, you think that the deal that Israel and Hamas have on the table right now, that was just approved by the Israeli cabinet, is a bad one for Israel?
00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:41.813 Well, let's first understand what it is.
00:01:41.813 --> 00:01:44.629 It's not a ceasefire.
00:01:44.629 --> 00:01:48.941 What it is.
00:01:48.941 --> 00:01:49.441 It's not a ceasefire.
00:01:49.441 --> 00:01:51.465 It is not a capitulation that someone won the war, which is an unconditional surrender.
00:01:51.465 --> 00:01:55.313 It's a proposed armistice and prisoner exchange.
00:01:55.313 --> 00:01:57.045 In the end, that's what it is.
00:01:57.045 --> 00:01:58.209 Okay.
00:01:58.209 --> 00:02:01.177 So it isn't the end of the war, I'm sorry.
00:02:01.177 --> 00:02:05.953 It's an armistice agreement, which has been done over and over and over again.
00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:20.045 In the proposal, hamas would release 33 of 98 Israeli hostages in the first phase, based off of certain humanitarian criteria.
00:02:20.045 --> 00:02:28.695 Hamas is unwilling to disclose how many hostesses are alive, if they are or not.
00:02:28.695 --> 00:02:32.871 They won't actually tell anyone.
00:02:32.871 --> 00:02:40.334 The humanitarian criteria was released for remaining women and children, wounded and elderly hostages.
00:02:40.334 --> 00:02:52.503 In this exchange, israel would lease 30 to 50 Palestinians, starting with children and women, For every Israeli released during the first stage.
00:02:52.503 --> 00:03:09.457 Israel would allow sufficient quantities of humanitarian aid, allowing displaced Palestinians to return to their homes and make a phased withdrawal from Gaza during the temporary ceasefire.
00:03:09.457 --> 00:03:13.906 Then talks would begin between two parties.
00:03:13.906 --> 00:03:26.014 In other words, there is no ceasefire agreement, there is an armistice agreement, and the media once again is not presenting the real facts.
00:03:26.014 --> 00:04:12.572 If they can get to the second stage, that's if the Houthis, if the actual Iranian government doesn't intercede, israel would have to accept a permanent ceasefire and Hamas would then release the remaining hostages, alive or dead, both civilian and soldiers, in an exchange for another batch of Palestinian criminals, and the deceased Israelis would be released only in the last phase, under the May 5th proposal which, by the way, has been running around for six months.
00:04:12.572 --> 00:04:17.822 Guys right, the commitment was never received.
00:04:18.223 --> 00:04:21.567 Hamas thought it was going to win the war.
00:04:21.567 --> 00:04:52.223 In fact, if you listen to the head of Hamas, they believe they've won the war and are martyring the people that led the best conflict against their enemy, because in 2023, on October 7th, 24, sorry that began this conflict was them themselves that put their people at risk and in war.
00:04:52.223 --> 00:05:01.062 You know, I don't really believe this is in the best interest of the illustrious, glorious country called Israel.
00:05:01.062 --> 00:05:04.387 I think this is kicking the can down the road.
00:05:04.387 --> 00:05:14.810 I think that the end of Hamas is not near because they're going to allow them to regroup, rebuild Now.
00:05:14.810 --> 00:05:26.374 As far as wanting to get back their hostages, well, this is only to more than likely lead to another batch of hostages to be taken at a later date.
00:05:26.374 --> 00:05:30.267 They want criminals and terrorists to be released.
00:05:30.267 --> 00:05:31.733 For what reason, david?
00:05:31.733 --> 00:05:45.009 Are they upstanding citizens or are they martyrs and representing the hate and vitriolness that the Abraham Accords will likely rid of the Middle East?
00:05:45.009 --> 00:05:47.867 Will they be best of friends?
00:05:47.867 --> 00:05:49.185 Will they all get along?
00:05:49.185 --> 00:05:54.767 Probably not, but conflicts like October 7th will not cease to exist.
00:05:55.389 --> 00:06:02.591 With this armistice agreement, I don't care if it's brokered by Biden or Trump.
00:06:02.591 --> 00:06:11.805 The only thing that these people understand is a stick, and that's all they understand.
00:06:11.805 --> 00:06:15.723 And if you don't beat them with the stick, they're not going to stop.
00:06:15.723 --> 00:06:22.882 And this ceasefire, which is an armistice agreement, will likely blow up.
00:06:22.882 --> 00:06:41.759 And you want to know something Even if Hamas breaks the deal, they will find a way to blame Israel once again, and this is where the hamster in the wheel continues to plague her Israel.
00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:56.886 You know, in some ways I understand the demands of the Israeli people, the Jews wanting their loved ones back, I really get it.
00:06:56.886 --> 00:07:03.961 Wanting their loved ones back, I really get it.
00:07:03.961 --> 00:07:07.240 And negotiating with terrorists unfortunately doesn't accomplish that.
00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:11.843 It only emboldens them to do it again and again and again.
00:07:11.843 --> 00:07:15.663 David, you asked me to start.
00:07:15.663 --> 00:07:27.786 You wanted to hear my opinion this morning because you had some evil plot to try and twist my idea that this is not a good deal for Israel.
00:07:28.266 --> 00:07:33.187 Well, you're speaking like a terrorist right now that I'm twisting your words.
00:07:33.187 --> 00:07:38.490 So let me, let me get, let me talk to you like, like the you know, like, let me understand something here.
00:07:38.490 --> 00:07:39.329 Are you a true terrorist?
00:07:39.329 --> 00:07:42.331 I actually understand wholeheartedly what you're saying.
00:07:42.331 --> 00:07:46.232 This deal sucks, and you know what the reality is.
00:07:46.232 --> 00:07:48.692 The whole relationship, the whole thing sucks.
00:07:48.692 --> 00:07:53.173 There hasn't been a fair shake to Israel since the beginning.
00:07:53.173 --> 00:07:55.754 Let me put a few things on the table.
00:07:55.754 --> 00:08:04.557 What you're not getting through is the actual impact on the Israeli society, and here's what You're right.
00:08:04.557 --> 00:08:13.059 It's a problem, but you've got to deal with the devil and you're not going to get what you want 100% right now.
00:08:17.459 --> 00:08:29.951 Israel has had a risk evaluation since the beginning of the war story and the timing right now of going into this may have to do with Donald Trump's entry into the office on Monday, but it has to also do with Israeli society's fatigue right now with the war.
00:08:29.951 --> 00:08:37.494 Let me remind everybody that this war has been going on since October 8th was the day.
00:08:37.494 --> 00:08:38.644 It was October 7th.
00:08:38.644 --> 00:08:47.264 When the day started, october 8th, israel hadn't done anything, but Israelis were dealing with the aftermath of the violation.
00:08:47.264 --> 00:08:57.287 People were kidnapped, people were murdered, burnt, beheaded, and Israel knew that they had a window of opportunity.
00:08:57.287 --> 00:09:01.701 That the window of opportunity lasted this long is incredible, stuart.
00:09:01.701 --> 00:09:13.085 What the world also, what Israel wasn't ready for and no one in the world could tell anybody that they were ready for was to have not a war on one front, but on seven fronts.
00:09:13.085 --> 00:09:14.590 No, seven, stuart.
00:09:14.590 --> 00:09:19.524 Seven different enemies attacked them, okay, and three we know very well.
00:09:19.524 --> 00:09:22.451 Clearly, the Houthis, hezbollah and, of course, hamas.
00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:24.986 Israelis are tired, stuart.
00:09:24.986 --> 00:09:30.067 They have been displaced, some 100,000 people displaced.
00:09:30.067 --> 00:09:34.649 Okay, you can imagine living in the north and you can't live in your house for over a year.
00:09:34.649 --> 00:09:37.428 If you were living in the south, you can't live in the house for over a year.
00:09:37.428 --> 00:09:39.548 Your family has been disrupted.
00:09:39.548 --> 00:09:46.562 The suicide rate of survivors that no one talks about Interesting, isn't it crazy?
00:09:46.562 --> 00:09:49.065 Because people you know they had survivor's guilt.
00:09:49.065 --> 00:09:50.466 No one's talking about that.
00:09:51.092 --> 00:09:54.985 No one's talking about the economic impact that this war has had on Israel.
00:09:54.985 --> 00:10:01.462 Israel's credit rating is down Terrible, okay, after building it up year and year out.
00:10:01.462 --> 00:10:04.067 Its economy is destroyed thanks to Hamas.
00:10:04.067 --> 00:10:06.734 No, tourists have not been going in there.
00:10:06.734 --> 00:10:08.424 Its investments in Israel are down.
00:10:08.424 --> 00:10:11.394 Okay, moody's have downgraded Israel.
00:10:11.394 --> 00:10:13.100 Nobody's talking about that.
00:10:13.100 --> 00:10:25.371 No one is talking about also the fact that the hostages need to come home now, and the world has played Israel as the victimizers.
00:10:25.371 --> 00:10:30.371 They're the one who are victimizing Gaza and Lebanon and the Houthi.
00:10:30.371 --> 00:10:32.187 I mean, israel has been blamed for everything.
00:10:32.187 --> 00:10:36.730 Anti-semitism is rampant around the world thanks to this war.
00:10:37.760 --> 00:10:43.129 This has gotten some headlines, but what Israel needs to do is Israel needs a little bit of peace and quiet.
00:10:43.129 --> 00:10:51.412 So here's the thing, though and this is the thing that you're not realizing that, as part of this deal also includes a ceasefire.
00:10:51.412 --> 00:10:57.668 And again, ceasefire is a very loose word, because there was a ceasefire, people, on October, the 6th 2023.
00:10:57.668 --> 00:11:02.645 Hamas violated, so we know, as Stuart likes to call it, an armistice.
00:11:02.645 --> 00:11:05.585 He's right, it's a complete and utter joke.
00:11:05.585 --> 00:11:06.950 It's just a stop.
00:11:06.950 --> 00:11:09.606 It'll give Hamas a chance to rearm.
00:11:09.606 --> 00:11:11.645 Sure, there will be a prisoner exchange.
00:11:11.645 --> 00:11:16.381 Sadly, israel will be giving away, you know, prisoners in exchange for human beings.
00:11:26.586 --> 00:11:32.565 Israel has to is going to be giving away part of its defense in gaza right now.
00:11:32.565 --> 00:11:33.245 What is built up?
00:11:33.245 --> 00:11:34.909 Egypt has to prepare itself.
00:11:34.909 --> 00:11:35.871 Jordan has to prepare.
00:11:35.871 --> 00:11:36.662 What's about to happen?
00:11:36.662 --> 00:11:38.568 Lebanon has gone through an overhaul.
00:11:38.568 --> 00:11:41.243 There's a lot about to happen.
00:11:41.261 --> 00:11:43.807 Okay, the Houthis claim they will stop firing.
00:11:43.807 --> 00:11:51.120 Great, this is what Israelis are asking for, but I'll tell you who they're asking for, stuart, and this is something that you're.
00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.067 This is the humanitarian part.
00:11:53.067 --> 00:11:59.611 Does the names Ariel Yarden and Kfir and Shiri Bibas mean anything?
00:11:59.611 --> 00:12:06.393 A family of four parents and their two little children were taken on October the 7th.
00:12:06.393 --> 00:12:08.628 A baby people, a baby.
00:12:08.628 --> 00:12:16.432 The Bibas kids have now spent more time in captivity than not in captivity.
00:12:16.432 --> 00:12:19.421 I mean, just imagine now what that future is going to be like.
00:12:19.421 --> 00:12:20.864 Enough is enough.
00:12:20.864 --> 00:12:23.690 And there is no doubt, stuart, that you know.
00:12:25.173 --> 00:12:42.845 The thing that Hamas, the Houthis, hezbollah and so many of these other haters have taken advantage of Israelis is its desire for life, its cherishing of life, outdoes death, whereas the other side only wants death and destruction and hate and violence.
00:12:42.845 --> 00:12:54.163 This is not the best deal, there's no doubt, but Israel wasn't going to get the best deal, because the best deal would have been disarming Hamas, disarming the Houthis, disarming Hezbollah.
00:12:54.163 --> 00:12:55.768 That's not going to happen in this region.
00:12:55.768 --> 00:13:01.831 Israel needs to get back to the negotiating table with Saudi Arabia and others, to get to the Abraham Accords.
00:13:01.831 --> 00:13:03.565 This may take years.
00:13:03.664 --> 00:13:03.846 Now.
00:13:03.846 --> 00:13:13.940 We don't know Now if the world was smart, which I'm putting in, and it's not.
00:13:13.940 --> 00:13:18.860 Now is the time to put the Palestinians' feet to the fire.
00:13:18.860 --> 00:13:21.455 You call for a two-state solution.
00:13:21.455 --> 00:13:22.658 Make it happen.
00:13:22.658 --> 00:13:23.380 I don't believe it.
00:13:23.380 --> 00:13:29.700 I don't believe that there's any intestinal fortitude on that side, because they've just been calling for death and destruction of Israel.
00:13:29.700 --> 00:13:36.595 And so I think that, at this point, right now, stuart, this deal which Joe Biden is saying, that was my deal, that was my deal I, this deal which Joe Biden is saying that was my deal.
00:13:36.514 --> 00:13:36.731 That was my deal.
00:13:36.932 --> 00:13:37.754 I did this deal.
00:13:37.754 --> 00:13:38.836 Good for you, joe.
00:13:38.836 --> 00:13:40.181 Go back to your retirement home.
00:13:40.181 --> 00:13:41.772 It's time for you to go to retirement home now.
00:13:41.772 --> 00:13:46.580 This deal is necessary so Israelis could rebuild.
00:13:46.580 --> 00:13:51.293 It is a hard thing for Israelis to do, stuart.
00:13:51.293 --> 00:13:56.403 When you talk to Israelis, they're telling you we're tired.
00:13:56.403 --> 00:13:57.956 And I'm going to give you one last little piece.
00:13:57.956 --> 00:14:25.246 When it's your kid who served weeks and weeks in the army defending the state, like no other army has and I'm not talking about the claims of genocide and the bullshit behind it the claims of genocide and the bullshit behind it but you asked 18 to 21-year-olds to go in and save your country, to defend the country, and they did a remarkable, remarkable job of doing that.
00:14:25.246 --> 00:14:29.456 And they've taken away.
00:14:29.456 --> 00:14:30.183 They really, really broke Hamas.
00:14:30.183 --> 00:14:30.769 They took apart Hezbollah.
00:14:30.769 --> 00:14:34.499 Syria, lebanon, will have new governments.
00:14:34.499 --> 00:14:35.381 It's changed.
00:14:35.381 --> 00:14:36.895 The Middle East has changed.
00:14:36.895 --> 00:14:42.138 It's a war of attrition now and it's time to bring our boys and girls home.
00:14:42.138 --> 00:14:51.256 Israelis want to rebuild and live and I think, stuart, that this isn't perfect, but we weren't getting perfect.
00:14:53.071 --> 00:14:59.764 David, like I started this rant, I don't speak to as many Israelis as you do.
00:14:59.764 --> 00:15:10.663 I speak to really one, and she has both her kids at the front lines and I can't tell you that her sentiment is echoing the entire country.
00:15:10.663 --> 00:15:33.278 And if being tired and fatigued is really enough, I think that, David, the tired and fatigue is true, it's real, but I really believe that they'll be right back here again back on October the 7th, if they don't eradicate Hezbollah and Hamas once and for all.
00:15:33.278 --> 00:15:35.522 The Houthis is an American problem.
00:15:35.522 --> 00:15:41.176 The world has to deal with the Houthis as they disrupt trade throughout the oceans.
00:15:41.176 --> 00:15:48.937 And again, that should be the new challenge of the new president being put into office on the 20th.
00:15:48.937 --> 00:15:53.092 And who gets credit for an armistice deal that will likely fail?
00:15:53.092 --> 00:16:09.254 In fact, David, it's already failed and it hasn't even begun, Because when the leaders walk around and martyr those that gave their lives and applaud their attack on October 7th, you've lost David.
00:16:10.836 --> 00:16:16.966 And you don't understand tribalism, because right now it's the same thing with Putin, iran.
00:16:16.966 --> 00:16:25.515 All of these tribal leaders can't show that they were failures, that they were weak, and they will bluster.
00:16:25.515 --> 00:16:33.264 And, by the way, stuart, how different are they than Joe Biden, who's taking a walk today saying look how wonderful I did as president?
00:16:33.264 --> 00:16:43.250 No leader is going to stand up there and say I ruined the country, I destroyed our people, I'm responsible.
00:16:43.250 --> 00:16:46.119 Jimmy Carter had the same thing, david.
00:16:46.198 --> 00:16:47.592 I agree, david, jimmy.
00:16:47.633 --> 00:16:50.195 Carter had the same thing, but you know what the difference is.
00:16:50.629 --> 00:17:10.382 From Jimmy Carter to Joe Biden, the swan song that Joe Biden came from, a bitter old 50-year-old parasite in the US government and for 50 years made a wrong decision, even plagiarized his speech in 1988.
00:17:10.382 --> 00:17:11.324 And you know what.
00:17:11.390 --> 00:17:13.518 You're going off again on another tangent here.
00:17:13.518 --> 00:17:13.838 Ok.
00:17:14.913 --> 00:17:16.519 We don't want to talk about John Carter, whatever.
00:17:16.849 --> 00:17:18.070 What I'm trying to say, Stuart?
00:17:18.070 --> 00:17:35.573 What I'm trying to say, Stuart, is that every time, every time, these tribal leaders, whether it's Sinwar or Nasrallah or whoever, they've all said the same thing we did nothing wrong, we did it in the name of Allah.
00:17:35.573 --> 00:17:37.258 Said the same thing.
00:17:37.258 --> 00:17:40.546 We did nothing wrong, we did it in the name of Allah.
00:17:40.546 --> 00:17:49.065 And when people wake up, realize that these are just people talking out of their ass and there's nothing there other than killing their own people, when they wake up one day and say you know what?
00:17:49.065 --> 00:17:52.334 We're tired of violence and death, they lose.
00:17:52.334 --> 00:18:01.960 Israel can eradicate, leader after leader after leader can destroy Hamas, but as long as the culture believes death over life, not going to matter.
00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:03.544 Last word to you, Stuart.
00:18:04.891 --> 00:18:10.983 David like normal daily business on every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, noon Eastern.
00:18:10.983 --> 00:18:14.673 You and I clearly don't agree, and you know what.
00:18:14.673 --> 00:18:37.905 I think both of us have the best intentions for the country of Israel and the people of Israel, but an armistice deal with terrorists is really putting your finger in a dike and we have learned over history and child tables that a finger in a dike and the boy that cried wolf doesn't win this game and loses.
00:18:38.829 --> 00:18:48.635 Stuart, I'm hoping that this weekend, on Sunday, that families can reunite, bury their dead, and it's time for Israelis to move on, I'm telling you.
00:18:48.635 --> 00:18:57.262 I think that the I'm hoping that Israel turns a page right now in its history and can build, because we're done.
00:18:57.262 --> 00:18:59.695 On that note, ladies and gentlemen, this is the end of.
00:18:59.695 --> 00:19:01.201 This is the Rent Network for Friday.
00:19:01.201 --> 00:19:04.660 Ladies and gentlemen, on Monday gee, what could we be talking about?
00:19:04.660 --> 00:19:14.222 That's right, ladies and gentlemen the inauguration of the 47th president.
00:19:14.222 --> 00:19:25.298 Join us Monday as we preview the Trump administration, its entry, and hopefully we won't have to talk about how Hamas screwed this deal again.
00:19:25.298 --> 00:19:27.490 Anyways, thank you for joining us.
00:19:27.490 --> 00:19:29.751 Ladies and gentlemen, catch us on all the social channels.
00:19:29.751 --> 00:19:31.519 We look forward to seeing you on Monday.
00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.339 Have a great weekend, stay well and peace.
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