VP Debate Vance vs. Walz Evaluating their Performances
Show Notes
Can a relatively inexperienced candidate command a debate stage like a seasoned pro? In our latest episode, we break down the electrifying Vice Presidential debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz. JD Vance's performance was nothing short of remarkable, drawing comparisons to political legends like Kennedy and Reagan. His articulate and impassioned responses left a strong mark, especially when contrasted with Tim Walz's more hesitant and evasive demeanor. Despite both candidates dodging some direct questions, Vance’s poised delivery set him apart. Join us as we dissect every nuance of this debate and consider its ramifications for the upcoming US election.
00:00:01.020 --> 00:00:06.886 My God, ladies and gentlemen, I think the line of the night last night was sometimes I'm just a knucklehead.
00:00:06.886 --> 00:00:12.151 I mean, could you imagine the Vice President of the United States calling himself a knucklehead?
00:00:12.151 --> 00:00:14.909 And I went I'm just a knucklehead, I misspoke, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:00:14.909 --> 00:00:24.873 Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't catch last night's VP debate, you missed actually a very interesting and exciting and entertaining and informative debate.
00:00:24.873 --> 00:00:31.829 Today we're going to do a little bit of a different approach than our usual letting one person rant for a long time and then the other person counterpoint.
00:00:31.829 --> 00:00:40.079 What we're going to do, just like the VP debate here, is we're going to give each ourselves two minutes to respond to whatever the question the other person poses there.
00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:47.551 But in general, folks, welcome back to our rant network, the podcast hosted by that guy to my right, stuart Brasgel.
00:00:47.551 --> 00:00:48.966 I am David Solomon.
00:00:49.420 --> 00:01:07.284 We just bring you this unedited, unfiltered and uncensored conversation every Monday, wednesday, friday, noon Eastern on a whole bunch of topics, and today we're going to focus on the US election, although we normally would have focused on Israel and Lebanon and Iran and whatever and that will be a podcast which we will dedicate for this Friday.
00:01:07.284 --> 00:01:09.350 We'll explain it a little bit, but generally.
00:01:09.350 --> 00:01:14.081 This is all about the opinions, the thoughts and experiences and what we believe from a variety of perspectives.
00:01:14.081 --> 00:01:15.305 We're not a media house.
00:01:15.305 --> 00:01:21.001 This is our opinion, although, unlike CBS, we fact-check properly.
00:01:21.001 --> 00:01:27.334 So we'll dive in today to this whole conversation here about the VP debate, folks.
00:01:27.334 --> 00:01:30.409 So sit back, enjoy this, and we can't wait for your exchanges.
00:01:30.409 --> 00:01:33.087 So, stuart, I'm going to ask you the question.
00:01:33.087 --> 00:01:36.081 I'm going to give you two minutes Overall.
00:01:36.081 --> 00:01:44.653 Evaluate how you found the performance, the difference between JD Vance and Tim Walz.
00:01:45.495 --> 00:01:48.480 The difference between JD Vance and Tim Walz.
00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:59.206 Let me begin by waving a Kamala Harris wand and open up or close the border.
00:01:59.206 --> 00:02:00.349 How do I summarize?
00:02:00.349 --> 00:02:10.006 Last night, I'm going to tell you that going into this VP debate, I wasn't really aware on how JD Vance was going to perform.
00:02:10.006 --> 00:02:28.961 He is a younger, more piss and vinegar type politician, very well educated, served our country, has an extremely, extremely multicultural background with his family, and he's a devout Christian, which isn't a bad thing either.
00:02:28.961 --> 00:02:44.531 But what I'm going to tell you is what he did yesterday hasn't been done since a Kennedy-era type shellacking and a Reagan-esque shellacking.
00:02:44.931 --> 00:02:46.653 Why am I bringing up these two guys?
00:02:46.653 --> 00:03:06.835 Because in the debates and in the speeches, these men managed to find opportunity to connect with the American people in ways that haven't been seen in almost 16 to 20 years, and for that I give the win to JD Vance.
00:03:06.835 --> 00:03:19.314 I believe he ushered in a brilliant corporate litigator concept that really needed to be seen on the world stage versus.
00:03:19.314 --> 00:03:28.314 I lied about China, I lied about being a coach, I lied about my military record Heck, I might as well lie about every single thing on my resume.
00:03:28.314 --> 00:03:40.515 And CBS, you know, almost got away with trying to make up the rules because they saw their precious candidate getting shellacked.
00:03:41.723 --> 00:03:43.689 David, that was really good, almost two full minutes there.
00:03:43.689 --> 00:03:56.397 Look, my point of last night was, uh, I thought that jd did a great job and, despite what the cnn commentators and all the rest of them said afterwards, uh, jd is not a slick oil salesman, he's not a.
00:03:56.397 --> 00:03:57.924 You know, he's not one of those guys.
00:03:57.924 --> 00:04:01.800 I mean he, you could hear it, you hear the passion, you hear the compassion, you hear whatever.
00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:02.824 He was well composed.
00:04:03.426 --> 00:04:05.473 Uh, tim waltz yesterday was rattled, especially at the beginning.
00:04:05.473 --> 00:04:07.258 They caught him on a lie.
00:04:07.258 --> 00:04:09.784 Cbs, of course, did not challenge him.
00:04:09.784 --> 00:04:10.546 What a shock.
00:04:10.546 --> 00:04:13.799 You found he wasn't comfortable.
00:04:13.799 --> 00:04:14.722 Those were his.
00:04:14.722 --> 00:04:16.507 You could see where his zone of comfort was.
00:04:16.507 --> 00:04:20.927 The zone of comfort was on the stuff that's great in Minnesota Abortion, you know great.
00:04:20.927 --> 00:04:32.108 He was talking about other things, but his facial reactions it was actually a flip flop is actually very interesting, because I found that Donald Trump in the first debate was very emotional.
00:04:33.216 --> 00:04:39.363 Tim Walz took the bait last night on more than one occasion and JD Vance actually gave him a lot of outs, which was really surprising.
00:04:39.363 --> 00:04:48.009 I did not expect that, but certainly certainly, stuart, I was beyond impressed with JD Vance's composure, his knowledge.
00:04:48.009 --> 00:04:52.326 I found his information and the way he presented it very, very good.
00:04:52.326 --> 00:05:05.206 Now, listen, they're going to comment about, of course, his non-answers right that he did not answer about you know January 6th and the election rejection, that he did not answer on certain things, but you know what folks Tim Walz didn't answer.
00:05:05.206 --> 00:05:16.266 Tim Walz did not answer about, you know, about anything to do with Kamala Harris and being in power currently and what she could have done.
00:05:16.266 --> 00:05:17.891 Tim Walz avoided also answering the question of would the United States?
00:05:17.891 --> 00:05:18.735 You know, retaliation with Iran.
00:05:18.735 --> 00:05:32.189 So, yes, you can criticize both on certain things, but last night I found Tim Walz rattled, though he's a much more seasoned politician and veteran.
00:05:32.189 --> 00:05:37.341 I think that last night and I told you that last night in the text score one, nothing for JD Vance.
00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:39.341 Yep, you're done.
00:05:39.341 --> 00:05:50.026 Okay, so I actually clipped out some really, really interesting things, and first of all, jd Vance isn't the seasoned politician that Waltz is.
00:05:50.026 --> 00:05:58.586 Tampon Tim has been in politics for a very, very long time and supposedly a great leader in the military.
00:05:58.586 --> 00:06:07.747 Clearly he's mistaken and he's mistakenly said I became friends with school shooters while discussing with the media.
00:06:09.077 --> 00:06:13.401 I saw JD Vance's eyes popped out of his head Another one.
00:06:13.401 --> 00:06:17.004 He didn't struggle to explain his past.
00:06:17.004 --> 00:06:21.303 False claims, aka knucklehead Tim Waltz.
00:06:21.303 --> 00:06:31.382 He literally didn't know how to answer the question, so he started talking about his brass upbringing my middle class upbringing.
00:06:31.535 --> 00:06:45.788 I mean, listen, these people are just playing the American people as just being stupid, and if we're not smart, these really stupid people are going to be the leaders of the free world.
00:06:45.788 --> 00:06:47.557 I find that more frightening.
00:06:47.557 --> 00:06:56.470 What was disappointing to a certain extent was JD didn't say Trump lost because it was rigged.
00:06:57.637 --> 00:07:01.726 Well, you're not going to get that one, and the problem is that's not the answer.
00:07:01.726 --> 00:07:21.675 The answer and because you say that you look like a conspiracy lunatic and whatever, I think the problem was this I find it absolutely fascinating that the and I think JD Vance tried to deflect it, and this is where I thought he did OK was we keep talking about January 6th, we keep talking about election, but what did he say last night?
00:07:21.675 --> 00:07:22.879 What did Hillary do?
00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.266 Hillary is still crying since 2017 that she lost an election.
00:07:26.266 --> 00:07:31.507 Well, yes, 2016, even after the handoff.
00:07:31.507 --> 00:07:34.557 So Hillary Clinton hasn't shut up about losing the election.
00:07:34.557 --> 00:07:36.882 In fact, recently she brought it up again.
00:07:37.663 --> 00:07:47.119 And yet CBS, abc, all the libs, they all want to focus on one thing January 6th and the claim that the election was rigged.
00:07:47.119 --> 00:07:48.939 And the claim that the election was rigged.
00:07:48.939 --> 00:07:57.103 Yesterday I flipped to CNN right after, and I was just wanting to get an idea of what it is that they were going to comment on.
00:07:57.103 --> 00:07:59.805 And, of course, they're saying there was no peaceful transition.
00:07:59.805 --> 00:08:00.845 What do you mean?
00:08:00.845 --> 00:08:01.865 There's no peaceful transition?
00:08:01.865 --> 00:08:04.307 Did Donald Trump lock down the White House?
00:08:04.307 --> 00:08:11.451 Did Donald Trump pull what's going on in Venezuela, where he changed the results of the election?
00:08:11.451 --> 00:08:13.031 The notion.
00:08:13.351 --> 00:08:38.096 The threat to democracy that JD Vance brought up yesterday was, I thought was very palpable, and both CBS and ABC and all the rest are refusing to acknowledge that the Biden administration, along with Kamala Harris, have influenced social media, the search engines, the technology companies to censor what we get as information, especially related to COVID, especially related to other things, and yet that is not the threat to democracy.
00:08:38.096 --> 00:08:48.783 Okay, when you have politicians in the Democratic Party screaming for death to America, as in Rashida Tlaib, that's not a threat to democracy.
00:08:48.783 --> 00:08:53.201 And I think that that's where JD Vance did not hit the ball out of the park yesterday.
00:08:53.201 --> 00:08:55.466 I'm sorry In that case, it could have been better.
00:08:56.595 --> 00:08:57.216 You know, david.
00:08:57.216 --> 00:09:08.201 Let me just say, if you scan the internet for newsworthy information about the debate, here is the focus that you're going to find.
00:09:08.201 --> 00:09:16.484 Both candidates maintained a respectful demeanor, discussing their policies rather not engaging in personal attacks.
00:09:16.484 --> 00:09:18.989 Why is that so one-sided?
00:09:18.989 --> 00:09:19.835 I'll get back to you.
00:09:19.835 --> 00:09:29.648 Analysts are still debating who had the upper hand, with opinions varying the effectiveness of their argumentative presentation style.
00:09:29.648 --> 00:09:34.846 Basically, in a nutshell, jd Vance hit a grand slam home run.
00:09:34.846 --> 00:09:39.947 Jd Vance seemed the most presidential candidate in the last 20 years.
00:09:39.947 --> 00:09:51.224 Jd Vance a superior candidate, not a seasoned politician like Mr Waltz and Mr Waltz where Waltz were very contrary.
00:09:53.195 --> 00:10:02.086 Yes, I listened to the media and believed that Donald Trump was, but then I decided to do some digging and investigating.
00:10:02.086 --> 00:10:06.695 Very much left out of the narrative, forgotten.
00:10:06.695 --> 00:10:07.880 And you know what?
00:10:07.880 --> 00:10:23.937 When I watched the post-nup and the post-mortem on not fox news, all I got to hear was the one thing jd vance won 89 minutes but lost in the one minute when he couldn't say donald trump.
00:10:23.937 --> 00:10:33.910 Loss because what they're trying to do is hold on to the one thing that they think they're right on, which was January 6th.
00:10:33.910 --> 00:10:35.115 But you know what?
00:10:35.115 --> 00:10:42.957 They didn't let JD Vance go down the road you lied about your military record you lied about your resume.
00:10:43.298 --> 00:10:44.822 You lied about where you've been.
00:10:44.822 --> 00:10:49.356 Heck, you're Kamala Harris's top pick and you're just a liar.
00:10:49.356 --> 00:10:55.808 You know, typically there's similarities between two people when they run for power, and you know what?
00:10:55.808 --> 00:10:57.140 I definitely see this.
00:10:57.140 --> 00:11:01.947 You know Donald Trump needs an anchor to hold him back and down.
00:11:01.947 --> 00:11:20.006 You know where his previous vice president, who was a very religious, very moral-driven politician, this one, seems to have a little bit more piss and vinegar and not afraid to speak his mind because he loves to speak.
00:11:22.054 --> 00:11:23.158 Let me point something out to you.
00:11:23.158 --> 00:11:31.273 When you win a debate, you single out the points that the person made in order to show how that person won.
00:11:31.273 --> 00:11:45.298 What all the pundits tried to do last night was to spin how JD Vance lied and misled the country, which means Tim Walz did not influence people's decision.
00:11:45.298 --> 00:11:51.446 Tim Walz did not convince people that he and Kamala Harris were the right candidates.
00:11:51.446 --> 00:11:58.962 What they need to do is to deflect, and that's exactly what I heard last night on numerous, numerous commentators.
00:11:58.962 --> 00:12:02.739 Ok, Walz fumbled and bumbled yesterday.
00:12:02.739 --> 00:12:03.600 You said it.
00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.331 He lied about Tiananmen Square.
00:12:05.331 --> 00:12:07.134 I misspoke, Don't shoot me.
00:12:07.134 --> 00:12:09.057 I misspoke, but Donald Trump is a liar.
00:12:09.057 --> 00:12:10.038 I misspoke, Don't shoot me.
00:12:10.038 --> 00:12:11.841 I misspoke, but Donald Trump is a liar.
00:12:11.841 --> 00:12:13.683 I'm not a liar, I just misspoke.
00:12:14.424 --> 00:12:31.576 Okay, when you said I'm befriended school shooters, I mean like guy, listen, if this is what you call presidential or vice presidential, you know, and the facial reactions he made yesterday and whatever, because they mocked Donald Trump with this.
00:12:31.576 --> 00:12:33.662 They couldn't do this to Tim Walz.
00:12:33.662 --> 00:12:40.086 So what you're seeing right now is the media redirection, the media deflection.
00:12:40.086 --> 00:12:45.780 The media needs to figure out how to make Tim Walz not look as bad as he did last night.
00:12:45.780 --> 00:12:50.033 And so when they talked about abortion and he brought up one, and I love when they do that.
00:12:50.033 --> 00:12:57.740 They bring up one story, 330 million people in the United States, but one story completely represents the entirety of the United States.
00:12:57.740 --> 00:13:05.558 But in the meantime, okay, constitutional law doesn't mean anything, especially to the fact that Tim Walz didn't even know his own constitutional law.
00:13:05.558 --> 00:13:10.254 Apparently, he didn't understand the American Care Act, like the Obamacare.
00:13:10.254 --> 00:13:12.076 He didn't understand parts of it.
00:13:12.076 --> 00:13:13.815 Jd Vance had to school him on it.
00:13:14.758 --> 00:13:17.317 Even the moderators, I mean, look, you could tell even the questions.
00:13:17.317 --> 00:13:23.051 Yesterday the questions were all you know like let's start with the easy ones, right, Iran?
00:13:24.131 --> 00:13:28.398 But then we'll finish up so that everybody remembers all the democratic policies.
00:13:28.398 --> 00:13:34.365 Climate change I mean, JD Vance answered the questions on climate change so well.
00:13:34.365 --> 00:13:35.972 I was worried on that one.
00:13:35.972 --> 00:13:37.215 He did a great job.
00:13:37.215 --> 00:13:45.274 Instead, what they did in the media was to unspin JD Vance so that Waltz would look better.
00:13:45.274 --> 00:13:51.105 I mean, this is how chaotic the Kamala Harris you know Tim Waltz ticket is.
00:13:51.105 --> 00:14:02.498 Stuart, here's the question why is JD Vance going on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and doing all these interviews, but Waltz and Harris do not forget about going to Fox.
00:14:02.498 --> 00:14:04.042 They're not going anywhere.
00:14:04.042 --> 00:14:09.514 They got to go to Oprah, they got to go to stupid things, I mean you're talking about softball.
00:14:09.875 --> 00:14:13.019 Waltz's performance was considered lackluster.
00:14:15.501 --> 00:14:18.905 This is what's actually on MSNBC this morning.
00:14:18.905 --> 00:14:31.955 It's just like another politician, and not especially an adopted one at that.
00:14:31.955 --> 00:14:35.767 And again it continues that Vance is worse than neither candidate and didn't much convince undecided voters, and I think they're wrong.
00:14:35.767 --> 00:14:41.760 I think that guy got up there and he literally blew out the entire broadcast.
00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:57.826 I think his this is my impression last night of JD Vance and I think that this Brady Bunch style of presentation of these facial reactions is exactly what I will remember from last night.
00:14:57.826 --> 00:15:00.654 Okay, that's what I'm going to remember.
00:15:02.371 --> 00:15:03.297 You know what, David?
00:15:03.297 --> 00:15:05.538 At this point we've got to wrap it up.
00:15:05.538 --> 00:15:08.678 I want to wish everyone a wonderful day.
00:15:08.678 --> 00:15:12.541 Can't wait to hear what we have left to talk about, David.
00:15:14.049 --> 00:15:15.211 Stuart, let me tell you something.
00:15:15.211 --> 00:15:22.585 It's an insane thing and, folks, I'm just going to take two seconds to make a little bit of shout out.
00:15:22.585 --> 00:15:29.673 Normally, as I said, we would have talked about what occurred yesterday in Israel and the.
00:15:29.673 --> 00:15:56.692 The attack from Iran was one thing, but the absolutely senseless, gutless terrorist attack in the city of Jaffa yesterday, in which what we're reporting now seven dead, stuart, I got to tell you it's a sickening thing to think of.
00:15:56.692 --> 00:15:57.453 How close you know, it's gross.
00:15:57.474 --> 00:16:03.745 What's going on right now in the Middle East, and last night's debate was proof positive that Israel is alone and that the reaction from the media and the reaction from people in general is alone.
00:16:03.745 --> 00:16:05.313 In general is alone.
00:16:05.313 --> 00:16:31.171 So, as we are on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, which is the Jewish New Year, I just want to wish all of our friends and family around the world, especially in Israel, peace as we approach the new year, the Jewish New Year, and we need a year of finally and I don't mean peace, as let's go make a statement Israelis have suffered for the last year, jews around the world have been suffering like you can't imagine.
00:16:31.171 --> 00:16:32.572 Enough is enough.
00:16:32.572 --> 00:16:40.193 If the world will not stand with her step aside, let Israel finish the job and we can finally live in peace.
00:16:40.193 --> 00:16:42.955 With that, ladies and gentlemen, we look forward.
00:16:42.955 --> 00:16:53.878 We will not be broadcasting any live or it will be prerecorded for Friday and we will be back live and uncensored again on Monday.
00:16:53.878 --> 00:16:56.938 Wishing you all a wonderful week, take care.
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